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Continental Free States
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 390
Founded: Oct 28, 2021
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Continental Free States » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:44 am

The Onox Legion wrote:
Zeloria wrote:Personally I don't really mind wank-nations that much. Sure, make your nation a real life country but stronk, whatever, I don't care. My real problem with these kind of nations is that the geopolitical situation can be pretty boring in them. These wank-nations doesn't really have credible opposition that can make the world more interesting. Internal opposition either doesn't seem to exist or are incompetent caricatures. External opposition meanwhile seems to be completely steamrolled in a war that the wanked nation easily won. I mean for crying out loud, give your nation an actual challenge to overcome. Hell, have aliens invade your planet, I don't care, just create an interesting conflict that is an actual challenge for your nations, because otherwise your setting becomes pretty boring.

Yeah, a functional antagonist that is at the very least a constant thorn in the side of your nation is something that elevates a story. Like the Birds for the Worms, the Old Hylian politics for the Onox Legion, etc.

Unless you're outright planning on writing a "and everyone sat happily ever after and sang kumbaya together" story, which most wank nations don't because gunboat diplomacy and invasions are still rampant.
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Terran American Republic
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Posts: 49
Founded: Dec 30, 2021
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Postby Terran American Republic » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:56 am

Continental Free States wrote:
The Onox Legion wrote:Yeah, a functional antagonist that is at the very least a constant thorn in the side of your nation is something that elevates a story. Like the Birds for the Worms, the Old Hylian politics for the Onox Legion, etc.

Unless you're outright planning on writing a "and everyone sat happily ever after and sang kumbaya together" story, which most wank nations don't because gunboat diplomacy and invasions are still rampant.

I haven't seen many nations like that, even this one and CAR still have enemies (China for this one, Ajaka for the CAR), besides, foeless nations or nations without rampant warfare are boring. Rather dry, I guess you could say.

Hard to make deliberating at the UNSC or diplomatic meetings sound exciting, after all
United States of America - A global superpower and head of the OFN, NATO, and a founding member of the Congress of Nations.
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Zeloria
Envoy
 
Posts: 213
Founded: Apr 21, 2020
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Zeloria » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:25 am

Terran American Republic wrote:
Continental Free States wrote:Unless you're outright planning on writing a "and everyone sat happily ever after and sang kumbaya together" story, which most wank nations don't because gunboat diplomacy and invasions are still rampant.

I haven't seen many nations like that, even this one and CAR still have enemies (China for this one, Ajaka for the CAR), besides, foeless nations or nations without rampant warfare are boring. Rather dry, I guess you could say.

Hard to make deliberating at the UNSC or diplomatic meetings sound exciting, after all


Its not just about having no enemies at all. One thing that I more often notice with these "wank-nations" is that while they do have enemies, those enemies are often easily defeated. And yes, while China in your world is powerful and might oppose America in the future, I still think that NATO and/or the OFN is still a bit too hegemonic and that your world would be more interesting if China had its own global alliance to oppose the OFN/NATO.
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Terran American Republic
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Posts: 49
Founded: Dec 30, 2021
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Postby Terran American Republic » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:26 am

Zeloria wrote:
Terran American Republic wrote:I haven't seen many nations like that, even this one and CAR still have enemies (China for this one, Ajaka for the CAR), besides, foeless nations or nations without rampant warfare are boring. Rather dry, I guess you could say.

Hard to make deliberating at the UNSC or diplomatic meetings sound exciting, after all


Its not just about having no enemies at all. One thing that I more often notice with these "wank-nations" is that while they do have enemies, those enemies are often easily defeated. And yes, while China in your world is powerful and might oppose America in the future, I still think that NATO and/or the OFN is still a bit too hegemonic and that your world would be more interesting if China had its own global alliance to oppose the OFN/NATO.

y'know that is actually a good idea, I might do that.
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American News Network: French Civil War: Battle of Bordeaux won by rebels | Putin of Russia; Janstorm of Sweden announce new military and trade deal | Chinese Parliament ousts President Tsai over OFN blockade | Opinion: are military coups good for a nation? Yes.
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Another United States of America Clone
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Posts: 0
Founded: Feb 17, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Another United States of America Clone » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:25 pm

Sup, my in-character name is the United States of America except alternate history.
IC: United States of America, duh @ Free people dude. An alternate history US but the history is the same except the future it is set in.

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Free Ravensburg
Minister
 
Posts: 3186
Founded: Jun 01, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Free Ravensburg » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:36 pm

Another United States of America Clone wrote:Sup, my in-character name is the United States of America except alternate history.

Yes, hello, this is cliche as well, thank you for bringing that up
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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:53 pm

cliche: getting skipped!!!
Image
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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Another United States of America Clone
Civilian
 
Posts: 0
Founded: Feb 17, 2022
Ex-Nation

Postby Another United States of America Clone » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:02 pm

UIJ wrote:cliche: getting skipped!!!
(Image)

cliche: speaking with a mouth!!
IC: United States of America, duh @ Free people dude. An alternate history US but the history is the same except the future it is set in.

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The Onox Legion
Secretary
 
Posts: 39
Founded: Sep 20, 2021
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby The Onox Legion » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:08 pm

Another United States of America Clone wrote:
UIJ wrote:cliche: getting skipped!!!
(Image)

cliche: speaking with a mouth!!

Cliché: Writing Cliché without the apostrophe
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The Emnian Realm
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Posts: 69
Founded: Jan 04, 2022
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Emnian Realm » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:13 pm

The Onox Legion wrote:Cliché: Writing Cliché without the apostrophe

In my head I pronounce it like klaitsch every time I see it written cliche

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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:15 pm

The Emnian Realm wrote:
The Onox Legion wrote:Cliché: Writing Cliché without the apostrophe

In my head I pronounce it like klaitsch every time I see it written cliche

why
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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The Emnian Realm
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Posts: 69
Founded: Jan 04, 2022
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Emnian Realm » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:18 pm

UIJ wrote:
The Emnian Realm wrote:In my head I pronounce it like klaitsch every time I see it written cliche

why

For the same reason that stride is pronounced straidi is long before C+e in English in native words

I know it doesn't apply to cliché as a loanword but it's funny to me either way
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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:23 pm

The Emnian Realm wrote:
UIJ wrote:why

For the same reason that stride is pronounced straidi is long before C+e in English in native words

I know it doesn't apply to cliché as a loanword but it's funny to me either way

pretty sure stride is pronounced stride not straid :eyebrow:
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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The Emnian Realm
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Posts: 69
Founded: Jan 04, 2022
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Emnian Realm » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:29 pm

UIJ wrote:
The Emnian Realm wrote:For the same reason that stride is pronounced straidi is long before C+e in English in native words

I know it doesn't apply to cliché as a loanword but it's funny to me either way

pretty sure stride is pronounced stride not straid :eyebrow:

I'm using ai to represent the /aɪ/ sound

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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm

The Emnian Realm wrote:
UIJ wrote:pretty sure stride is pronounced stride not straid :eyebrow:

I'm using ai to represent the /aɪ/ sound

jokes on you i am illiterate 8)
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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The Onox Legion
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Posts: 39
Founded: Sep 20, 2021
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Postby The Onox Legion » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:48 pm

Everything would be so much easier if the Lingua Franca of the World was a better one than english. Oh well...
A bandit state lying in the eastern area of Hyrule.
Raiding, destruction, partying are all part of the program.
The World is one where the three timelines have merged a while ago, but tensions have risen.
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The African Emirates
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Posts: 153
Founded: Aug 10, 2017
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The African Emirates » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:04 pm

The Onox Legion wrote:Everything would be so much easier if the Lingua Franca of the World was a better one than english. Oh well...


English indeed sucks, but on the other hand it's my first language.
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The Emnian Realm
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Founded: Jan 04, 2022
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Postby The Emnian Realm » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:07 pm

Unpopular opinion but I'm actually quite fond of English itself as a language
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Vadterland
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Posts: 124
Founded: Jul 12, 2018
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Postby Vadterland » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:30 pm

Invalid opinion, Modern English is heavily derived from French and therefore I despise it with a burning passion. /joke
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In a strange world not so different from ours, a young empire stands in the heart of Europa. Born and forged in the fires of war, and headed by an embittered Kaiserin and her ambitious generals. Stretched to a breaking point and groaning under the stress and hubris of its past victories, the Fatherland stands on guard. But on the forefront of a new world, fighting a new war from without and within, will it survive?

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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:31 pm

Vadterland wrote:Invalid opinion, Modern English is heavily derived from French and therefore I despise it with a burning passion.

typical german opinion
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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The Terran Expanse
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Posts: 1
Founded: Feb 16, 2022
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Terran Expanse » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:39 pm

The Onox Legion wrote:Everything would be so much easier if the Lingua Franca of the World was a better one than english. Oh well...

Anyone that unironically says "English is bad, it has weird rules" or even the dumb "Hahah, 3 languages in a trenchcoat" argument has never truly dealt with the intricacies of other languages. French and German are extremely unforgiving.

And unlike other lanagues, if you say something incorrect in English there's a 90% chance it can still be understood because we aren't as rigid with our rules.
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UIJ
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Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:41 pm

The Terran Expanse wrote:
The Onox Legion wrote:Everything would be so much easier if the Lingua Franca of the World was a better one than english. Oh well...

Anyone that unironically says "English is bad, it has weird rules" or even the dumb "Hahah, 3 languages in a trenchcoat" argument has never truly dealt with the intricacies of other languages. French and German are extremely unforgiving.

And unlike other lanagues, if you say something incorrect in English there's a 90% chance it can still be understood because we aren't as rigid with our rules.

ugh
who's THIS guy
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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New Audalusia
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Posts: 43
Founded: Oct 11, 2021
Capitalist Paradise

Postby New Audalusia » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:43 pm

The Terran Expanse wrote:
The Onox Legion wrote:Everything would be so much easier if the Lingua Franca of the World was a better one than english. Oh well...

Anyone that unironically says "English is bad, it has weird rules" or even the dumb "Hahah, 3 languages in a trenchcoat" argument has never truly dealt with the intricacies of other languages. French and German are extremely unforgiving.

And unlike other lanagues, if you say something incorrect in English there's a 90% chance it can still be understood because we aren't as rigid with our rules.



Me who says English is hard but knows it's easy compared to stuff like what TTE mentioned:
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Vadterland
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Founded: Jul 12, 2018
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Postby Vadterland » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:43 pm

UIJ wrote:
Vadterland wrote:Invalid opinion, Modern English is heavily derived from French and therefore I despise it with a burning passion.

typical german opinion

you besmirch my honor by assuming i claim descent from such barbaric stock
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The Germanian Empire | "Unser Vaterland, Herr der Asche..."
Factbooks | Music | Tech Level: PT/FanT | Current Year: 1942 AE

In a strange world not so different from ours, a young empire stands in the heart of Europa. Born and forged in the fires of war, and headed by an embittered Kaiserin and her ambitious generals. Stretched to a breaking point and groaning under the stress and hubris of its past victories, the Fatherland stands on guard. But on the forefront of a new world, fighting a new war from without and within, will it survive?

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UIJ
Diplomat
 
Posts: 993
Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Left-Leaning College State

Postby UIJ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:44 pm

Vadterland wrote:
UIJ wrote:typical german opinion

you besmirch my honor by assuming i claim descent from such barbaric stock

you def british
I am tired of summies :alas:
Pro: you reading my lore and getting kinda sad, maybe a lil glum, then seeing the Hooshers and getting a lil happy

Anti: if your lore so much as fucking dare mention the US, UK, Russia, Japan, or Germany I will throw radioactive hoosh shit all over you and everyone and everything you have ever loved

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